Terrence Howard: Well, this is the face
that we show the white people.
{All laugh}
Lee
Daniels: I talk about that in the New York Times piece about me,
The Two Faces of the African-American. And I think that we bring it to
light here was important for me because I think that as I grew in
Hollywood, I had to put on a face; I had to talk with a certain diction
and I had to be a certain way, I had to dress a certain way. I had to
present myself in a certain light so that I could get ahead, and it
wasn’t until I found myself and be myself that I could present that. It
was when Obama was elected that I was able to be me and the two faces
met.
Oprah
Winfrey: I don’t feel that at all. I feel that I have made a
living being myself. When I was 19 years old, I interviewed Jesse
Jackson as a young reporter in Nashville, Tennessee, and he said to me
then, “One of your gifts is being able to be yourself on TV.” So, when
I moved to Chicago, and I was up against the then-“King of Talk,” my
boss at the time called me in the office and said, “Listen, we know
we’ll never be able to beat him, so just go over there and be
yourself.” So, I have made a career out of my own authenticity. I only
have one face that I present to the white world and the black world, you
know? I talk to my dogs in the same way. So, it’s always been the same
for me, and I say that with great pride and homage and honour to the
people who were the generation before me. That’s one of the reasons why
I wanted to be in this movie. It is because I am the daughter of a
maid, and my grandmother was a maid, and her mother was a maid, and her
mother was a slave. So, the domestic worker in the speech that Dr. King
gives to my son in the movie; I feel validated by their courage. I feel
validated by the war that the butler and his entire generation fought in
their own way and the fact that there’s another generation of freedom
riders, or freedom fighters, who, because of evolution and growth and
change decided we’re not going to do that anymore. I think that was
also necessary. So, both wars were necessary for the time.
But there was a wonderful poem by Paul Laurence
Dunbar, called We Wear the Mask that I learned as a little girl, but
because of the courage, because of the conviction of an entire
generation whose shoulders we all stand on, I never had to do it.
LD:
That’s the reason why you’re Oprah Winfrey, because unfortunately, many
of the people that I know, and what I’ve had to experience have had to
do...
OW: I mean, yeah, obviously, you do it as a
black man.
LD: … as a black man.
Cuba Gooding, Jr.: Well, now, I would like
to take it from there…
{All Laugh}
Mariah Carey: Take it!
CGJ:
I love you, Oprah, and I love exactly what you said cos I feel that same
way in a lot of aspects of my life, but there is that very aggressive
aspect of my life that I have a specific face for. I’ve been in
organised sports for all my life. I’ve been a professional ice hockey
player in tournaments and people generally think of ice hockey as a
predominantly white sport - which it is - but I played in certain areas
where I know that people are defensive for me to be present with them.
So, I know that if I act the way that I act in the boxing gym, with
predominantly black and Hispanic aggressive men; there’s a difference
face that I put on in that environment. It’s a very accountable
environment, where you have to watch what you say and how you speak, or
you will be held accountable physically. So there’s a certain face I
wear there and there’s a certain face I wear in that locker room
surrounded by certain people who have very different opinions about
black people, but they have to respect me because of my skill level
there. Then there’s a very different face that I wear with my children
in these very expensive schools that I have them in. There’s a very
specific face that I wear as a celebrity. And I think the film is
indicative of the faces that black men had to wear in this time,
specifically in the South and specifically as a domesticated and
professional people. And then there was also other faces that David
Oyelowo’s character had to wear around people that he obviously at some
point had a disconnect with, with the storyline and with Yaya {Alafia}’s
character being that of the Black Panthers. So, the black male in this
time of Civil Rights Movement had to wear many faces that we have been
talking about for the past few days. And I think that the Trayvon
Martin situation was another thing that sparked another reminder that we
do need to wear certain faces that represent a mentality indicative of
our surroundings. Terrence spoke very wonderfully about it yesterday,
in terms of if Trayvon had recognised the face that he needed to wear at
that particular moment, it might’ve been a very different outcome. So,
I think that even though we’ve talked a lot of wonderful statements
being made about historical times and presidents and what not, but I
think what attracted me to this movie was the duality of the existence
of the African-American male through this time period that was so
wonderfully detailed by Mr. Lee Daniels, through the Civil Rights
Movement, the relationship, the face that the butlers got to wear around
Reverend Dr. Martin Luther King, and the very different face they had to
wear around Nixon. So faces are a theme in this movie that can’t be
ignored or slighted, and I think it’s something that even though we all
wish that we could be as open as certain personalities, we as
African-Americans still deal with this very real situation about the
many faces that we’re required to wear.
MC:
Something that Lee and I spoke about several times was the whole
duality of it, and I think Lenny {Kravitz} and I had spoken about
this too. My mom who is Irish-American, my father was African-American,
and actually Oprah and I did a show about this; that there were some
young interracial – we were taught to call ourselves interracial, when I
was little but biracial children, multiracial children, I’m not sure
what the correct term to use is now. But I think it’s going to be
healthy for kids to be able to grow up to see this movie because I mean,
we were talking about it before, there’s something about it that’s so…
it’s deep when you look at these times and you say, ‘Well, how
glamourous that was. How that must’ve been for certain people.’ And then
I would say to myself cos my mom was very active in the Civil Rights
Movement, but she was the one who had to go and get the house whenever
they wanted to buy a house, cos my dad wanted to kind of assimilate and
give his children a chance to get to another level and not grow up like
he did in the Bronx and Harlem and different places where his mom had
come from down south and migrated upwards. I think that this is
something that it’s just so brave. {To Lee Daniels} It’s the
same bravery you had and always have in your work and I just wanna say
personally thank you for doing it.
TH:
I wanted to add something to this because I started off saying this is
the face we show white people. Cos most human beings are fragmented and
not solid and whole within themselves and come to terms like Oprah has
come to terms with who and with all that she is; even white people have
a face that they show to white people. Everyone shows what they hope
will gain acceptance into the world. But once you’ve accepted yourself
and recognised your connectedness to the entire being, to the universe,
and you are moving in a cooperative manner as exemplified by Cecil in
the film. He had the stillness of being to wait on God’s hands, to wait
on the universal purpose and once that was accomplished – it wasn’t
accomplished at a time when he hoped it would be accomplished, but it
was accomplished when it was necessary. Those musical octaves, at the
end we will come to a crescendo and there will be balance, but you have
to trust that and we have to move as a solid people. But until then, we
will be fragmented, and we’re gonna blame everyone when you see them
have a false face or a false tone, when it’s the reflection of our own
tones or our own falseness. So, we’re all playing.
~ The Lady Miz Diva
August 5th, 2013